"I'll be positioned in the same seat by 2027," Sir Keir Starmer stated, noting that if our discussion went well, he might invite us into Number 10 for another talk in the coming year.
For a PM, there's never truly time off for those in the top job. Shortly before the interview began, the PM had been speaking with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and attempting to understand exactly what had occurred in Venezuela, where his big ally, US President Donald Trump, had recently attacked and captured its leader, Nicolás Maduro.
Once the discussion, which was considerably lengthier than usual, had ended, Maduro had been indicted in New York.
But as the year commences, Starmer appears to have had a kind of a reboot. Perhaps even just a bit of downtime with the family at Chequers, the prime minister's rural getaway.
This appeared to have resulted in better spirits than at the sluggish conclusion of 2025, a dreadful year politically for him.
Yet, are he and his supporters kidding themselves if they think his political fate are poised to get better?
The grisly reality for the leader is that numerous of his colleagues are convinced he's not very good at his job. Some of them would sooner take a risk and oust him in 2026.
However Starmer was having none of it during our conversation on Saturday morning.
On several occasions he insisted he'd be "evaluated at the general election", arguing no one would strip his five-year mandate from him – despite the fact that the best chance of stopping Nigel Farage and Reform UK getting to No 10 might be for Labour to change its leader.
"This is the battle of our generation and I plan to guide the party," he said.
The problem for the PM is that he will be judged well ahead of then – in a major set of elections in May throughout the UK. He attempted to argue, perhaps too much, that they are concerning who runs councils, and who runs the governments in Holyrood or Cardiff – and unrelated to Westminster.
Accurate – up to a point. But although he may be reluctant to concede it, No 10 will be judged by those elections too.
This did not stop Sir Keir stating that there were no situation under which he would step down, even if a his colleagues challenged him for the job, if those elections prove disastrous for Labour.
He tried to account for his unpopularity by saying the public was reasonably eager for things to get better. He sought to assure me, and the public, that the coming months would be a change.
The economy would strengthen in the face of rising unemployment, he said, when strategies the government enacted during their first rocky year began to bear fruit.
His big point is that soon the country will "turn the corner".
The PM may have communicated with greater vigour than observed from him for a some time – less tense, maybe, with a longer slot to talk.
But despite encountering pressure from within his own party for a more decisive approach, with increased political direction, more dynamism, more pace and more urgency, his explanations were repeated ones.
Given that he is in considerable political difficulty, is a different approach required a change of tack?
No government, and especially not one that has been unpopular for an extended period, gets everything its as planned.
Sir Keir's challenges are not just because governing is challenging, but because he and his team have faltered, including in the recent past.
The prime minister expressed regret that he was sorry for saying he was "happy" to see the return of the Egyptian-British activist Alaa Abd El Fattah to the UK following an controversy when statements he'd previously made – including calls for Zionists and police to be killed – resurfaced.
Sir Keir blamed "procedures" for not catching what the activist had said before – a fancier way of saying it wasn't his responsibility.
And he is facing clear political dangers as the year progresses. His close relationship with the US president takes on a new jeopardy after Trump's military action on Venezuela.
Based on years of interviewing Sir Keir Starmer, a former human rights lawyer who was against the war in Iraq, over his career, the idea he would be comfortable with such action seems far-fetched.
He asserted he was a "career-long proponent of international law" but the public "simply lack the complete details at the moment".
Opponents wanted him to condemn it prior to the interview. And the government is expected to face more pressure to give an explicit view in Parliament in the next few days.
There has also always been simmering pressure in the Labour ranks to revisit some of the results of Brexit.
Sir Keir rejects he's heading in that direction, but his new specific plan to integrate further with the European trading bloc – the giant economic European market – will probably trigger accusations that he is reneging on his promise never to try to overturn the decisions that flowed from Brexit.
A decision to align with more of the single market will please some on his backbenches, but it is prime ammunition for Reform and the Conservatives to